Wednesday 29 February 2012

Rare earth factory in Selangor?



SHOCKING NEWS!!!!! ?





NOW! The above facts should be screaming on the faces of Pakatan Rakyat's hypocrites. 


Shin-Etsu (M) Sdn.Bhd, a rare earth magnet producing factory, is operating right under their nose in the Hicom Industrial Area in Shah Alam.

Could we expect the Pakatan led Selangor state government to close down the factory which has been operating in this country for decades? 

Lets watch the circus!

p/s I'm sure Penang Chief Minister would be among the first to call for the Shin-Etsu rare earth magnet producing factory in Shah Alam to be closed down...immediately.



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37 comments:

Dave said...

That is a magnet factory producing rare-earth magnet (most likely neodymium), not a rare-earth refinery.

Get your facts right. Aren't you supposed to be a journalist?

r0 said...

Mari hantar pasukan hijau samar2 ke shah alam... takebeer!!!

Apanama said...

rare earth MUST be rare earth, right? Did anybody care to listen to what nuclear experts had to say about the Lynas plant? :-)

Anonymous said...

Dave, go sing DJ Dave songs.

Walski69 said...

Firdau, I know you're not stupid, so don't make a fool of yourself by posting such idiotic posts. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between refining rare earths, and using one of the rare earth elements to manufacture magnets. Typically neodymium, which is not radioactive. No refining, but using refined raw material.

Anonymous said...

Bro Dave..are you mabuk? not enough Khalid take beer can provide more...

Anonymous said...

sinar radiasi di sekeliling kita tetap ada....tanpa lynas!!

sape peduli....?....hanya pembangkang nak politikkan
apa sahaja pihak kerajaan
buat utk ekonomi,rakyat dan
negara!!

Anonymous said...

sinar radiasi di sekeliling kita tetap ada....tanpa lynas!!

sape peduli....?....hanya pembangkang nak politikkan
apa sahaja pihak kerajaan
buat utk ekonomi,rakyat dan
negara!!

Anonymous said...

Dave, kamu ni pakar nuklear ker? Dr. Che Rosli punya cakap takleh pakai ker?

Get your facts right. Aren't you supposed to be a 'bijaksana'?

Anonymous said...

WATCH THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQq_oo7K2Hc&feature=youtu.be

sicfallacy said...

lets put this in point form:
1. mining of REE ore (eg. kat Ostolia sana)

2. REE extraction, i.e refinery process (eg, Lynas Kuantan)

3. REE usage (eg, pure REE to make magnet)

that's the three-step REE industry.

Probs:
1. Direct environmental effect at stage 1 and 2 (mining and extraction process)
2. Indirect effect (using REE to produce product. That REE come from 1 and 2. If you use REE, then you support 1 and 2. common sense)

Anonymous said...

Salam,

Nak posting ttg special nuclear material mesti tahu fakta-faktanya. Ada perbezaan di antara material yg mengeluarkan sinar radiasi seperti gamma, beta, alpha. Jangang kita ni jadi tolol, nanti semua x-ray kat hospital tak boleh guna sebab bahan dalam tu adalah material nuklear juga. Lampu gasolin lama tu pun ada kesan radiasi juga. Nanti semua org kampung tak boleh guna lampu gasolin lagi sebab ada radiasi. Iodin pun salah satu dari bahan yg mengeluarkan radiasi. Jgn nanti hospital tak boleh guna pulak iodin. Bukan semua org tahu yang radiasi nuklear ni boleh di halang dari keluar dengan mengadakan shielding. Jgn sebabkan posting anda, nanti org kata anda ni bodoh dan sombong sebab main hentam keromo. Baca dan cari fakta2 yg betul. Rare earth bukan semuanya nuklear material. Sama juga dengan ikan jerung paus, dia jadi rare fish sebab jarang atau susah dijumpai. Adios

Anonymous said...

Salam,

Nak posting ttg special nuclear material mesti tahu fakta-faktanya. Ada perbezaan di antara material yg mengeluarkan sinar radiasi seperti gamma, beta, alpha. Jangang kita ni jadi tolol, nanti semua x-ray kat hospital tak boleh guna sebab bahan dalam tu adalah material nuklear juga. Lampu gasolin lama tu pun ada kesan radiasi juga. Nanti semua org kampung tak boleh guna lampu gasolin lagi sebab ada radiasi. Iodin pun salah satu dari bahan yg mengeluarkan radiasi. Jgn nanti hospital tak boleh guna pulak iodin. Bukan semua org tahu yang radiasi nuklear ni boleh di halang dari keluar dengan mengadakan shielding. Jgn sebabkan posting anda, nanti org kata anda ni bodoh dan sombong sebab main hentam keromo. Baca dan cari fakta2 yg betul. Rare earth bukan semuanya nuklear material. Sama juga dengan ikan jerung paus, dia jadi rare fish sebab jarang atau susah dijumpai. Adios

Dave said...

Walski, if anything, this issue shows how ignorant people can be about engineering, science n chemistry... more so on the BN side

Lynas:
refining ore to get the rare earth metal like neodymium and cerium. but also result in radioactive wastes from the material

ShinEtsu:
Makes magnets with neodymium, which is non radioactive

Anonymous said...

I have never learnt anything good from DAP or PKR from their years in office. Some PAS leaders are OK.

Please list all rare-earth facilities world-wide and compare them to Lynas.

Dont use handphone, dont watch TV, dont use computer, they are all emitting relatively higher level radioactive.

Stupid Crap, Dave and Co.

Anonymous said...

walski69

save malaysia, you fucking idiot. remember lynas walski69 fucking idiot?
rare earth emits radioactive! period.
don't change subject! you want malaysia to destroy? you must not be living in shah alam!
save malaysia, fuck lynas and selangor!

you are being paid by Japanese government, walski69?

Anonymous said...

other rare earth producing factories
in selangor
Load Technology Engineering (M)Sdn.Bhd.

Apanama said...

Saya tengok ramai yang defend kilang proses rare earth magnet diShah Alam. Diverse scientific arguments.

Tapi kenapa tak nak terima scientific explanation yang diberikan pakar nuclear tentang Lynas?

Kalau bukat hipokrit, apa namanya?

CheWal said...

the estimate radiation exposure from Lynas, Kuantan is 0.002 mSv/year

this is very very low. This is the reason why Lynas is safe. But, the puak hijau and oppositions will never care about facts. They prefer lies.

the amount of radiation exposure from eating one banana a day for a year is 0.036 mSv/year which mean 18 times more than Lynas.

So, you will get more radiation from eating banana than radiation from Lynas.

But... as usual the oppositions will never care about facts.

Anonymous said...

Dude ! lu bangang banget haha ..

Anonymous said...

Ahaa i like this...

Just because its in Selangor, a PR state, doesn't make anything out of it. You think you're clever, being the first to sniff the existence of this company in Shah Alam. Maybe there are few more in Penang too, or maybe in other BN states too. Why do you think BN didn't say anything about this? I'm sure they have list of companies that they (the BN govt) allowed to operate in Malaysia. They have good opportunity to attack anti LYNAS movement, especially PR, with Shin Etsu's rare earth magnets factory in Shah Alam. But why didn't they?

I'm sure if you check the company's history, as in when it started to operate in Malaysia, i'm sure its way back before 2008. Before 2008 was BN era in Selangor. Shin Etsu company started operating in Shah Alam in 1993.. guess who gives them the license to operate in Malaysia.

One more thing, unlike Lynas, Shin Etsu's rare earth magnetic factory too are located in SINGAPORE, INDONESIA AND PHILIPPINES. Forget about the latter two, but what about Singapore? Singapore too has the same manufacturing factory just like one in Shah Alam here. Did they said anything about that factory is bad or something?

So next time, don't just google "rare earth companies on Malaysia" and start looking for companies in PR states only. Bukit Merah = LYNAS. LYNAS and Bukit Merah =/= Shin Etsu. Get your facts right dude.

Anonymous said...

Hipokrit belake. Cakap Dr. Che Rosli langsung tak nak pakai...

Anak Perelih said...

kilang rare earth ni dibuat / diapprove zaman BN perintah Selangor... or Selama ni Selangor dibawah Pakatan Rakyat sejak merdeka/10 tahun lepas????

Anyway.. thanks for this pendedahan... baru kami tau pasai ni....

Anonymous said...

I'm afraid I have to agree with Dave on this. The Shah Alam factory uses rare earth elements to make magnets, so is not like LAMP.

To find the biggest hypocrites, you should go to Ipoh. The DAP MPs Kulasegaran and Lim Kit Siang go all over the place mouthing off about LAMP, but never say anything about the many Chinese-owned Amang factories at their doorstep, some of which are in their own constituencies.

Check out this paper about the poor safety procedures they have at these factories - http://www.nuklearmalaysia.org/nuklearmalaysia_org/media/File/JNRT-2008/JNRT5-Dec08-9.pdf

Anonymous said...

sebab2 rakyat bantah Lynas megikut golongan:

1. Melayu
-suka dengar ikut org
- dengki n dendam sebab xdapat kje kt Lynas cthnye Mr Andasura (BADAR).resume die still ade kt lynas for position safety manager.

2.Cina
-dapat habuan yg lumayan n nk selamat kan company rare earth kt cina..FYI skrg ni china monopoli RE 90%..so pkr2 la sndiri..

3.PKR
-politik kn isu untuk dptkn kuasa

4.PAS
-ikut je PKR ckp..

Anonymous said...

Lynas is not Bukit Merah.

22) Bahan mentah yang digunakan oleh Asian Rare Earth di Bukit Merah ialah bahan 'Tin Mining Tailings' yang mana mana ianya berbeza dengan yang digunakan oleh Lynas. Di mana 'Tin Mining Tailings' ianya 50 kali lebih tinggi tahap radiasinya......Rezqeen Hill

jasley said...

Aku pernah kerja kilang ni 5 tahun, 2005 sampai 2010.ni buat magnet lah.mana ada radioaktif...kilang ni wujud dari tahun 90an lagi.buat magnet untuk hard disk then supply ke western digital, seagate, hitachi n etc...xyahlah nak tabur fitnah sgt.mcm la korang pernah kerja sini...adeh...dilaknat Allah betul lah tabur2 fitnah ni...insaflah!

Anonymous said...

Lynas tak selamat??? So, Dr. Che Rosli tu tak betul lah yer? Kalau gitu baik tak payah jadi pakar nuklear.

Anonymous said...

Nak tau senarai kilang sangat berkait dengan rare earth di Malaysia, go and searh kat google, taip kilang amang atau klik kat bawah.
http://www.ibcmalaysia.com/category/Minerals/
Nak tau amang tu berkait dengan rare earth, bunyi macam ini “‘Amang’ known as a tin tailing, was left abundant in ex-mining area. It is rich in heavy minerals containing rare earth elements.”
go and click link below
http://pkukmweb.ukm.my/mjas/v13_n2/html/13_2_7.html
dan banyak lagi boleh search kat google eg.
The Content of Rare Earth Elements in Amang from Selected Mines ...
www.scientific.net/MSF.70-72.81
by K Hussin - 1991 - Related articles
Rare Earth Minerals and Minerals for Electronic Uses: The Content of Rare Earth Elements in Amang from Selected Mines in Malaysia
- Nak tau sama ada kilang Amang tu di kawal atu tidak, hang pi kat sini
http://www.aelb.gov.my/aelb/malay/dokumen/perundangan/435.pdf
Nak tau sapa taukey kilang-kilang amang, pandai2 cari sendiri.. boleh contact ROC/SSM Pendaftar Syarikat?
Nak tau tahap bahaya radioaktif antara yang ada dalam amang dan yang dalam tanah yang di bawa ke kilang Lynas, pi Tanya pakar …, setakat yang aku tau kadar radioaktif kat dalam amang tu jauh lebih tinggi banding tanah yang proses kat Lynas? Yang akau selau dok Nampak banyak longgokan hitam bergunung kat tepi jalan kalau ke Utara, kadang-kadang ada Nampak juga kat Selangor. Nampak macam tak tutup saja.. jangan2 banyak rodon dok terlepas … geng-geng tu tu Nampak sihat. Tak dak pula depa dok bising?
Lagi satu yang pernah aku baca dulu-dulu kat bawah tanah di Penang, depa kata banyak tantalum, tak silap aku tantalum tu bahan radiaoktif, dengar cerita zaman orang putih dulu, bijih timah banyak proses kat sana. Saki baki sisa-sisa yang ada radioaktif dok tanam kat sana. Ada satu ketika dalam surat khabar kata depa dok gali cari tantalum. Rasa2 macam banyakkan kat bawah tanah di Penang tu, kalau tidak macam mana depa boleh tau nak cari. Kalau betullah, apasal depa kat sana Nampak sihat saja, nak beli rumah pun mahal.? Jangan-jangan masih ada kilang mineral lagi kat Penang? Kena cek tengok, takut fitnah, yang confirm korek cari tantalum memang ada. Cuba klik link kat sini
Korban tantalum memang dijangka. http://skypin.tripod.com/rencana/renc48.html
Kegiatan curi tantalum
https://sukaweb.penang.gov.my/pkn/Akhbar.nsf/.../scan0001.pdf
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Kegiatan curi tantalum dikesan kembali aktif. EORGETOWN: Kegiatan kecu- rian tantalum di tapak bekas kuarters lama milik Majlis Perban- daran Pulau Pinang ...
http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles/Kegiatancuritantalumdikesankembaliaktif/Article
Oh ya terlupa, tantalum tu apa benda? Ada kena mengena ke dengan radioaktif – Cari sendiri kat google

Anonymous said...

Nak tahu aktiviti mineral mengandungi radioaktif semulajadi cukup banyak kat Malaysia tapi tak rasa pula nak bising, agaknya apasal?

Nak tau lebih lanjut apa dia?

Nak tau senarai kilang sangat berkait dengan rare earth di Malaysia, go and searh kat google, taip kilang amang atau klik kat bawah.
http://www.ibcmalaysia.com/category/Minerals/

Nak tau amang tu berkait dengan rare earth, bunyi macam ini “‘Amang’ known as a tin tailing, was left abundant in ex-mining area. It is rich in heavy minerals containing rare earth elements.”
go and click link below
http://pkukmweb.ukm.my/mjas/v13_n2/html/13_2_7.html

dan banyak lagi boleh search kat google eg.
The Content of Rare Earth Elements in Amang from Selected Mines ...

www.scientific.net/MSF.70-72.81
Rare Earth Minerals and Minerals for Electronic Uses: The Content of Rare Earth Elements in Amang from Selected Mines in Malaysia
-

Nak tau sama ada kilang Amang tu di kawal atu tidak, hang pi kat sini
http://www.aelb.gov.my/aelb/malay/dokumen/perundangan/435.pdf

Nak tau sapa taukey kilang-kilang amang, pandai2 cari sendiri.. boleh contact ROC/SSM Pendaftar Syarikat?

Nak tau tahap bahaya radioaktif antara yang ada dalam amang dan yang dalam tanah yang di bawa ke kilang Lynas, pi Tanya pakar …,
setakat yang aku tau kadar radioaktif kat dalam amang tu jauh lebih tinggi banding tanah yang proses kat Lynas?
Yang aku selalu dok Nampak banyak longgokan hitam bergunung kat tepi jalan kalau ke Utara, kadang-kadang ada Nampak juga kat Selangor.
Nampak macam tak tutup saja, open air .. jangan2 banyak rodon dok terlepas … geng-geng tu tu Nampak sihat. Tak dak pula depa dok bising?

Lagi satu yang pernah aku baca dulu-dulu kat bawah tanah di Penang, depa kata banyak tantalum, tak silap aku tantalum tu bahan radiaoktif,
dengar cerita zaman orang putih dulu, bijih timah banyak proses kat sana. Saki baki sisa-sisa yang ada radioaktif dok tanam kat sana.
Ada satu ketika dalam surat khabar kata depa dok gali cari tantalum. Rasa2 macam banyakkan kat bawah tanah di Penang tu, kalau tidak macam mana depa boleh tau nak cari. Kalau betullah, apasal depa kat sana Nampak sihat saja, nak beli rumah pun mahal.? Jangan-jangan masih ada kilang mineral lagi kat Penang? Kena cek tengok, takut fitnah, yang confirm korek cari tantalum memang ada. Cuba klik link kat sini
Tak pula depa dok tanya pencemaran air ke? udara. Rasa aku dah puluhan tahun, sihat saja, harga tanah pun mahal,
mai kita pindah ramai-ramai... buat apa dok atas bahan radioaktif semulajadi tu, bahaya beb!!!

Korban tantalum memang dijangka.
http://skypin.tripod.com/rencana/renc48.html

Kegiatan curi tantalum
https://sukaweb.penang.gov.my/pkn/Akhbar.nsf/.../scan0001.pdf

Kegiatan curi tantalum dikesan kembali aktif.
GEORGETOWN: Kegiatan kecurian tantalum di tapak bekas kuarters lama milik Majlis Perban- daran Pulau Pinang ...
http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles/Kegiatancuritantalumdikesankembaliaktif/Article

Oh ya terlupa, tantalum tu apa benda? Ada kena mengena ke dengan radioaktif – Cari sendiri kat google

Anonymous said...

Just to make clear, Rare earth factory in Selangor only using the ready made rare earth in form of block which is sourcing from japan. This factory only perform certain process such as cutting, forming, coating and assemble to produce voice coil motor (one of the component in hard disc drive). Not same as LYNAS WHICH IS EXTRACTING RARE EARTH FROM MINE.

Anonymous said...

wa sokong apanama!!

Anonymous said...

Rare earth factory in Selangor only using the ready made rare earth in form of block which is sourcing from japan. This factory only perform certain process such as cutting, forming, coating and assemble to produce voice coil motor (one of the component in hard disc drive). Not same as LYNAS WHICH IS EXTRACTING RARE EARTH FROM MINE.
For those sohai & retard, just one comment to you. U still not understand what is Group 1 radioactive.
Check from google & admit you are retard & sohai. Damn & doom you if you had made Malaysia become world TOP Group1 radioactive waste dump collection center. Damn u...

Anonymous said...

cakap dr. che rosli xleh pakai ker? sape sebenarnya yg pakar nuklear nih?

eXception said...

Tak kiralah kilang Shin Etsu ni produce rare earth ke magnet ke... what the fu** neodymium ke... and what so fu** ever... ianya tetap melibatkan bahan RADIOAKTIF...

Kita mesti bikin demo depan kilang Shin Etsu!! Kita baring atas jalan... Kita pegang bendera DAP sambil menyatakan sokongan menutup terus kilang Shin Etsu!!!

eXception said...

Anak-anak kiasu sudah menyalak mempertahankan Shin Etsu... Betapa HARRAM ZADEY KAMINEY KUTTEY anak-anak kiasu ni...

Anonymous said...

http://www.thebenchmark0.blogspot.com/2012/03/media-prima-vs-astro-vs-rtm-who-is.html